On what sites, blogs, or platforms can I find American G1 users?
Hi testmine,
I’m fairly new in the free currency sphere but there’s none I know of in the US (that being said I discover new things being done every day in this free currency sphere so take my word on that with a pinch of salt as you could discover something new I haven’t seen yet).
I’ve heard of a very recent small community starting in Ojai (California), but apart from that I think everything you might see in the US will be very fresh and most-likely self-made.
The fact that there seems to be none is great news for you (if you care to see the luck in it), because it’s an opportunity to create whatever website or platform you’d like to see exist for the US which I’m certain will help catalize local growth and federate local pioneers.
A great perk at the point in time and space at which you find yourself is having the opportunity, through the development of that which you’d like to see, to give (influence is a better word) the shape your heart would like to see in its local unfolding/blooming from the very start (you have an opportunity to shape the crystal seed in many ways, so to say).
« Be the change you want to see in the world. » comes to mind here (from the great man and genius, Mahatma Gandhi).
It also seems you might be having some alignment from the universe for that because the software development entourage has now consolidated a solid translation team which is working on translating the upcomming next level iteration (in technical terms) of the software ecosystem of the G1 to a good number of additional languages. This sets very fertile ground for whoever would be working on expansion outside the initial French/Latin user-base which hosted the very first steps of the currency.
If you indeed decide to follow along that path expect many of us around the world to follow your developments with great excitement. You might also see various forms of support coming your way on that path (you might be able to tap into help from the translation team, for instance, or get some G1 crowd-funding support, just to name a few possibilities). Maybe you could make a post here and update it regularly with the latest news from the US adventure and description of your developments along the way as it unfolds?
A community in Ojai is news to me. (I know of the one in Denver.) Do you know who I could contract in Ojai?
I’m not sure how available she is for communicating and I don’t know her personally, but sending an email to josiesamways@hotmail.com might put you on the right path. It’s a very new / early stage / nascent community though so I really don’t know if there’s much to find along that path.
I think most of what you can get initially is what you’ll build around yourself. This is true in general within the highly distributed free currency community (it’s more like a network of tiny economies that people have built around themselves with a few friends and neighbours, many small paradises). And its a very strong general rule in life: you have the life you build for yourself. The advantage you have is that I believe things can scale up fairly well and quickly in the US and to much bigger sizes (in part because of the culture but also since there’s one huge territory / a single « population » with a single language and culture once you’ve got yourself started with the websites/platforms you’d wish to see/have, there’s no barrier for things to just keep adding momentum to what you’re building).
The best way to reach US Junists is via Telegram :
The US English term used to qualify the G1 is « Libre Currency »
More than new websites, what the US needs is more local G1 groups.
there is not enough players over there actually, that is the very need.
(Experience in France over the last 10 years,
shows that overplaying online presence, is no amounting to gaining local growth)
Translations, on the other hand, is very important, no spreading of Libre Currency in « foreign language »; it has to be in the local language.
So helping and giving means to the teams of translators, is more important right now than making websites (at least, in « starting » countries) - we can use Social Network platforms for the communication aspect. (Telegram is great)
I am planning to go back to the States in the coming years, and to help to boost the growth as i do in the Toulouse region.
We have also English speaking Visios (zoom sessions) regularly planned, one set from the Colorado « tribe » and the other from me (every 2 weeks)
(schedule on this site : Évènements from 4 août 2023 – 1 septembre 2023 › Visio Présentation › English Visio › – Econolibre)
Try to see what we do at Econolibre.org, to see what is happening (progressively around the world)
you are the best !
I want to join G1 communities, but I don’t want to use proprietary software (Telegram), audio/video calls, or unencrypted e-mail. Are there better ways to get in contact?
I would sooner send handwritten letters than join the current groups as is.
Strange, I don’t see gchange on there.
Not always easy to contact people via that mean. You have to do it, on a one on one basis.
you can use this forum category to post (like you just did) USA - Forum Monnaie Libre
Or also via private message on this forum.
Econolibre is a private organisation; it is not a general nor generic Libre Currency website.
So it talks about Econolibre sites and tools.
We have a page in the making (Libre Currency Ressources), to direct people toward more generic websites about Libre Currency : Les G-tutos - Econolibre
it is changing (another URL soon) where you find links as you mentioned.
you have a website listing all Libre Currency websites : https://infojune.fr
Econolibre is an organisation geared toward bringing Pro (business, organisation, etc.) to use the Libre Currency. We specialize in making tools and websites to bring about a Libre Economy.
We partner also with Axiom-Team and the developpers to help improve the Libre Currency Software(s)
The good part with the word « Libre » (free, as in freedom) is that you are free to call it whatever you want, including « Libre Currency » if you wish so, in whatever software, materials, or communication (as you just did) you produce yourself. Just like you are free to use whatever logo you want to create in any software or material you produce yourself.
It may be a good thing for each of us to strive to avoid making absolutist - and naturally thus most often misleading - statements such as « This is X » (implying this has to be done THIS way - most often the way we’ve chosen for ourselves, which us humans have a natural tendency to want to impose uppon others - and that there would be no other way nor freedom for others to see and decide to do things differently than we have chosen to do ourselves). None of us has the absolute power to define the universe nor to impose our absolute way of seeing things onto others. We can all make what we think is right the way we think is right each on our side, trying to interfere as little as possible with others who believe the right way is different from our personal belief, and seeing what way / side naturally unfolds in better ways, while all pushing for the same general purpose all along.
The French word « Libre » means exclusively « Free » in the sense of « Freedom » and the language has a different word « Gratuit » to refer to gratuity, whereas in English the same term (« Free ») is used both to refer to freedom and to gratuity, which can cause some early confusion when english speakers first hear the term « Free Currency » (but which turns out to have the advantage to peak people’s interest/curiosity).
My very humble opinion on the matter, if it is to be discussed, is that the « Libre Currency » has no meaning whatsoever in English. The most proper (expanded) term to refer to it in a discussion, in my opinion, is « the currency of the Free World » and in a less proper but more compact term for general use amongst people who know what is being refered to the « free curency » as I did earlier in this thread. Of course this point of view is not perfect (for the reasons above) but so is everything else in the world. I believe each person should use whatever term they best see fit to refer to it and that soon enough we ought to see what term better sticks in people’s mind and most appeals to the reality that is being created as one of many components / tools for striving towards the ideal of a free world.
You are making something simple, very complicated.
And here you are doing what you, yourself, advocate not to do.
I don’t even know why you go on explaining, all of what you have been saying.
First, it is quite disobliging to receive a lesson in etymology and meaning of words.
You don’t even know me (or we, being the ones who gave the naming),
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may be are we educated enough to know certain things ?
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You might be aware, if you are dealing in IT in the US, that the expression « Libre software » is quite used among us.
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Should we wait until 8 billions people, give their advice, in order to name something ?
People in the first period of something new, always comes up with what they think, something might be named. So normal that « Free Currency » comes up.
And we are not going to go around explaining « Free » not as in « Free beer » and all the mumbo jumbo that went on for 20 years in the Libre Software world. Case closed.
So no, the naming always comes from the makers, translators and first users of something.
It was chosen « Libre Currency », that’s it.
I was just making you aware of that fact; not trying to have a debate about something I was making up.
Now you can name it as you please, who cares !
And in fact, you don’t have a very « humble » opinion, on the contrary.
My goodness, are you French ?
Keep it simple, man, it would not fly high in the States.
Good Luck !
Lets let each person do as they see best fit in what they are doing and focus on doing things the way we best see fit in what we are doing ourselves. When people take different paths from each other, the universe will do the work of telling appart what way was best or if both or neither ways were good.
Let’s also keep the communication going amongst all to favour opportunities for uniformity on those points whereon people want to and decide to go for uniformity at a certain point of time, all the while leaving each other free to do differently when it seems right to do so.
We all meet on the other side. Then we can look back.
We’re all here with the same goal: contributing to the free world, aren’t we?
As you say, good luck to everyone contributing to the free world, each on their chosen path!
There are groups starting in the US actually, we are almost 10-15 people in Denver Colorado, and 2 people in Ojai California so far. We also have people interested to start a group in Tennessee and Oregon but not 100% proactive yet. See in the US Telegram group for events that are being organized.
For Colorado we keep it more private with a Signal group only for people who have come to our events in person.
By the way, does Josie agree on having her email address publicly disclosed on the forum? That may not be a good idea given the subversive aspect of G1…
Maybe you could delete it from your post and send it to testmine in a private message ?
Where are you located?
It’s going to be really hard for you to join a community and start exchanging things in G1 if you want to remain anonymous. The people who will certify you will have to know you and meet you before they do. I don’t know how you can find the support from overseas to start a local group, get G1 fundings, and get your first people certified without showing your face.
We are using The US telegram group to welcome newcomers and share about events we organize.
As I said for Colorado we created a signal group for people who come to our events and commit to be active in our G1 community.
Some other volunteers and I translated the French version of the Website for monnaie libre: g1currency.org
I wanted to create a dedicated forum in English but I didn’t have the skills and energy to do it the right way as decentralized as possible and moderate it alone. So for now, until there is a bigger English community, we created an English section on this forum where you can find resources and ask questions in English (see at the bottom of all categories), as well as a USA section too (which is the one you posted your questions in here) to share about events we organize in the US (for now it’s mainly me sharing about these events as our american junists are not really active on the forum).
I also wanted to create a Matrix Forum but didn’t have the skills and server neither.
American people can post their offers on at least 4 different market places in English (girala, gchange, airbnjune and juneted)
I haven’t yet sent an email to Josie since I wasn’t certain if it was the right addres and most strange emails get sent to the junk folder.
Anonymity is not the point, but it is the ideal. I am willing to send physical mail which isn’t very anonymous. With things as is, I’m not concerned with certifications.
It is incredibly foolish to use a face as a proof of humanity.
Visit @tuxmain 's server.
You could use it for monnaielibre in general though you might have to ask.
As I wrote to testmine I don’t know Josie personally, I’ve never talked to Josie nor even met her (i’ve simply sent her money once to support her advertised development efforts in her community) so I didn’t get her email in a private context. It’s an email address she made public. I certainly wouldn’t share contact information sent to me privately, but I am no one to override people’s decision about what they decide to make public.
We know that once we make something public we can never really go back to the time when it was outside of the public domain. One way to handle this is to dedicate things to the public domain and keep others for more restricted domains. Josie, for instance, may very well have a more private email which she only shares in more private settings. Just as many people have a work email shared in the work sphere, and a private one shared in a private sphere, as well as a public one everyone can access.
Can someone in contact with Josie confirm that (the real) Josie has received e-mails from me? The e-mail conversation I’m getting from her hotmail account is starting to get weird.
Why is it getting weird? Maybe she was hacked?
You can also reach out to Robert on the Telegtam Channel Telegram: Contact @G1CurrencyUSA
Sophie